
Today would have been my paternal grandmother’s 128th birthday. She died in 1978, so quite a while ago, but I remember her well. I have written about her before, but this morning I remembered that I had a copy of a certificate somewhere, and thought I would look at it more carefully. It’s a copy of what I think is her birth/baptismal certificate. But some of the dates are difficult to work out.
I know she was born on 8th January 1896. I say I know that because she told me so – and on various other documents that I have it says so. But during the war and just after she was quite prone to changing her date of birth according to whether it was more convenient for her to be younger or older! Apparently a lot of people made these adjustments – sometimes a year or two, sometimes just a matter of months. I wonder how she remembered what she had said to whom.
But this is a copy that was requested in 1920. I wonder why. She was already married by then so she would not have needed it for her wedding. My father was already a year old, so presumably she did not need it to have him christened. Maybe to prove that she had been born in Poland. This was also a copy of a copy made in 1902. She was 6. Was it her first communion? Maybe. Though it does mention the word baptism. Sometimes baptism and confirmation took place on the same day. Alexander Zubrzycki was the canon of the Cathedral. (In Przemyśl?) Her religion is stated as Graeco-Catholic. Her grandfather was a pastor, but in which church?
She was born in Przemyśl to Sophia, daughter of the Reverend Stephan Kozenka and Aniela Rozycka, and to Alfred Antony Kirschinger, military … .
Her godfathers were Basil Stefanyszyn, civil servant of Lwów, and Theofil Herloss ??? of Przemyśl, and her godmothers were Agrippina Batka, widow, and her daughter Josepha.
It is the first time I have ever considered any of these names, and so of course I would like to know more about them. I have just found out that Teofil Herloss was the publisher/editor of a Przemyśl newspaper. Here is a link to a copy,
https://jbc.bj.uj.edu.pl/dlibra/doccontent?id=75486
I have also found an address for Zofia Kirschinger in Przemyśl: 58 Piotra Skargi. There aren’t 58 houses on the street now.
But who knows? I have written to the cathedral in Przemyśl via Facebook. The computer wont let me otherwise.
Any ideas?
When I last wrote about my grandmother a few years ago, a very nice man in Poland happened to remember that he had seen her name in an autograph book he had acquired some years before. This serendipitous purchase, and the noticing of my blog, inspired him to write to me and then to send me the book, which I treasure.
I wonder who will notice this post?
Anyway, have a very Happy New Year everyone.
It is most interesting to try and trace ones family tree. I have managed to trace both my moms and dads families way back to France and Scotland/England. Obviously my main reason was to trace my families from just before they arrived in South Africa to the present day. My de Villiers side of the family arrived here in 1654, while the Smith side of the family arrived here in 1820.
Apart from genealogy sites on the web, I spent some time in the National Archives unearthing lots of information. It is also important to speak to as many relatives as you can as they quite often have bits of information that aren’t written up anywhere. And once they die, then the information dies with them.
PS – Nice post
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Thank you. As I am now part of the oldest generation left there is no one left to ask unfortunately. I can’t think of anyone who will remember her sadly
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That is indeed very sad.
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Our histories are so powerful when we come to know them. When I was searching through family records I discovered that our own family name was changed when we came to the United States. I have often wondered why.
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I wonder where they came from and what the original name was. That should give some clue
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What I have learned is that the original name was DeLisle from France. It was changed to De Lisley when the family emigrated to England after William the Conqueror. It was changed again to Lisley in the 1400’s and when the first man came across the Water to America, Lisley changed to Lillie.
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how very interesting.
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I have made up a few stories about how and why the name changed over time. I wish I knew how it really happened.
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That’s so cool about your grandmother’s book! What a treasure.
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yes indeed it is. I was so excited to receive it.
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